I saw these models on Renderosity and really wanted to purchase them but they were only for use in DAz3d. Poser is my main platform for creating illustrations and I STILL use M4 and V4. Thankfully with the help of Ken1171 Designs' DUF Proper converted, I was able to convert this model for use in Poser 12 and 13. It exquisite. I'm saving up my ducats for the upcoming sale to get more Samsil goodies! What magnificent work.